From Ted Barlow over at
Crooked Timber, Wednesday June 30…
I'm pretty sure that this isn't what Jesus would do
According to the blog Non Prophet, James Dobson’s
socially conservative activist group, Focus on the Family, has included Michael Moore’s home address in their daily
email to supporters.
What legitimate purpose could this possibly serve? What
have Moore’s neighbors, wife and daughter done to merit the danger that FOTF have foolishly put them in? Simply disgusting.
UPDATE: Several commentators have noted that this hasn’t been independently
confirmed, which is fair. I’m calling Focus on the Family this morning
to see if they can confirm or deny it; stay tuned.
ANOTHER UPDATE: This is for real. I’ve just spoken to a representative of Focus on the Family who has confirmed that Focus on the Family
did, indeed, give out Moore’s home address. The person that I spoke to
didn’t want to be quoted. I’ve asked the media relations department
to see if they have any comment that they are willing to make, and I’ll update with any comment that they have.
I saw no further update.
From our correspondent in Chicago - “The Focus on the Family stuff is really disgusting.”
our friend who walked away from Hollywood to live in France…
I agree, giving Moore's or anyone else's home address to the angry mob is disgusting, especially
considering what the lunatic fringe on the extreme right gets up to when they disagree with someone - i.e. killing abortion
doctors and the like.
It's also a rather sad admission of lacking the intellectual capacity to express one's point
of view. Buga-buga. I can't effectively
dispute the veracity of your words, so I'll shut you up by threatening you (and others who might say similarly unpleasant
things, a priori) with exposure to the mob, and if possible the certifiable.
If only they could muster even that prescience of thought. Buga!
was a similar case in the not to distant past, wasn't there, involving 0'Reilly (yes, that's a zero, not an "O" - how childish)? I assume that it's generally those on the right who silence people in this way? My, how dangerous are words?
Well, so far nothing has
From the News Guy in Atlanta...
To go further (and, Alan, if your conservative friend were to read this, I'm sure I'd get an earful
of disagreement on this):
Despite certain trademarked phrases, "fairness" and "balance" and the "free marketplace
of ideas" are highly regarded concepts, but mostly just by liberals, springing from a judgment that says you should pretty
much let everyone express themselves, no matter how much you may intellectually and emotionally disagree with them. Yes, there are exceptions on both sides to this tendency, but conservatives are still much more likely
to be found giving only lip-service to these ideas, and also are much more likely to publish on websites the names and addresses
of people they don't like.
It's all part of process, and liberals are much more believers in process than conservatives,
evidenced in the Florida recount, in which -- and I know I've mentioned this before, but I just love the theory and have to
repeat it whenever I get a chance -- in which one side (guess which) lived according to the principle, "It's not whether you
win or lose, it's how you play the game," and the other (guess which) lived by, "Winning is not the most important thing,
it's the ONLY thing!"
Indeed. Is this so?
Regarding Rick's "process theory" note this - from the French news service AFP so maybe
they just made it all up....
US lawmakers request UN observers for November 2 presidential election
Friday, July 02, 2004 - 2:22 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Several members of the House of Representatives have requested the United Nations
to send observers to monitor the November 2 US presidential election to avoid a contentious vote like in 2000, when the outcome
was decided by Florida.
Recalling the long, drawn out process in the southern state, nine lawmakers, including four
blacks and one Hispanic, sent a letter Thursday to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan asking that the international body "ensure
free and fair elections in America," according to a statement issued by Florida representative Eddie Bernice Johnson, who
spearheaded the effort.
"As lawmakers, we must assure the people of America that our nation will not experience the
nightmare of the 2000 presidential election," she said in the letter.
"This is the first step in making sure that
history does not repeat itself," she added after requesting that the UN "deploy election observers across the United States"
to monitor the November, 2004 election.
The lawmakers said in the letter that in a report released in June 2001, the
US Commission on Civil Rights "found that the electoral process in Florida resulted in the denial of the right to vote for
The bipartisan commission, they stressed, determined "that the 'disenfranchisement of Florida's
voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of black voters' and in poor counties." Both
groups vote predominantly Democratic in US elections. ...
Ah, yes, monitor the process.
Just like a bunch of Democrats to think up that one.
Did it not occur to these folks that if they get a bunch
of UN people to monitor this election where the voting is done on the new electronic touch-screen voting machines, the UN
inspectors can only call up data files from the system servers. There is nothing
else to examine. “Recount” is meaningless. There is one data set, and that’s that. Maybe if more
votes are recorded than there are registered voters – as happened out here in the last election with these machines
in Orange and San Diego counties – then questions might come up. But what
are you going to do about it? Throw out all the votes? Some are, really, after all, valid – maybe most of them. Or
And how are you going to tell if someone hacked into the system and changed the votes? Maybe all but two voters in Ohio DID vote for Ralph Nader. Could
you prove otherwise? The systems are pretty open and use well-known 4GL application
languages. In tests folks have breached these systems, changed data, and left
without a trace. It’s not hard.
And why did I use Ohio as an example
above? The President of the company (Diebold) that sold his machines to the State
of Ohio, in his formal presentation, said, flat-out, his goal was to deliver the Ohio electoral votes to Bush. He’s
a Bush “Ranger” – one of the Bush top campaign fund-raisers. (To
be fair he did later say that he probably shouldn’t have said what he said about the electoral votes – because
people could take it the wrong way and, well, his audience at the meeting to select a vendor was mostly Republican guys, and
he REALLY wanted to make the sale.)
Anyway, the Democrats can worry about fairness and process, and rule of law.
don’t win that way. Perhaps you save your soul… but you don’t
Back to the Focus on the Family people publishing Michael Moore’s home address….
friend in France, by the way, was probably thinking of something that appeared in Just Above Sunset on October
5, 2003 – Liberals cannot take a joke (Fox News gets CNN) or are conservatives mean-spirited?
That’s a riff on this news item:
CNN's Tucker Carlson Angry Over Phone Flap
Mon Sep 29,10:54 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Conservative CNN commentator Tucker Carlson's snide humor backfired
on him - and his wife. While defending telemarketers during a segment on "Crossfire" last week, the bow-tied co-host was asked
for his home phone number. Carlson gave out a number, but it was for the Washington
bureau of Fox News, CNN's bitter rival.
The bureau was deluged with calls. To
get back at him, Fox posted Carlson's unlisted home number on its Web site. After
his wife was inundated with obscene calls, Carlson went to the Fox News bureau to complain.
He was told the number would be taken off the Web site if he apologized on the air.
He did, but that didn't end the anger.
In an interview with The Washington Post, Carlson called Fox News "a
mean, sick group of people."
Fox spokeswoman Irena Briganti said Carlson got what he deserved. "CNN threw the first punch here. Correcting this mistake was
This led to a dialog between Hollywood, a friend in Montréal (he likened revealing the Carlson
home number, so people could make obscene and threatening calls to the wife and kids, to terrorism) and the News Guy
(who worked for years for CNN). You could read it if you like.
not sure the Focus on the Family people want to terrorize Michael Moore and his family. If you click on that link you’ll find they are pretty benign
folks. Their mission: To cooperate with the Holy Spirit in disseminating the Gospel of Jesus Christ
to as many people as possible, and, specifically, to accomplish that objective by helping to preserve traditional values and
the institution of the family.
Perhaps they’ll just ask Michael if he wants to pray with them.
Angry Christians can be… difficult.
Remember the Church in Spain way back when? They too had to deal with people who didn’t get the message of Jesus and the Church quite right.
As Inquisitor Franciso Peña declared in 1578 - “We must remember that the main purpose of the trial and
execution is not to save the soul of the accused but to achieve the public good and put fear into others.”
Words to remember, no?